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    TANK CREWS WANTED!!!

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    TANK CREWS WANTED!!!

    Post  drzdeano on Tue May 08, 2012 1:50 pm

    In order to find the best tank crew , i think we will need a small competition to find out!!

    To those interested, pair up and we will hold some challenges, i had these in mind

    tank v tank,
    tank point defence v. 1 squad,
    tank point offence vs 1 squad
    tank v a.heli

    We can alter the challenges as necessary to find the best test of skillz



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    Re: TANK CREWS WANTED!!!

    Post  CRl5 on Tue May 08, 2012 3:13 pm

    Good idea but i think it would be better to work out who are the best gunners and drivers seperately rather than pairing from the start. While it requires teamwork to use a tank, often there will be only one person in a tank or the driver or gunner will change. Also it is important to be good with a rpg, torch and engineer guns.

    I think the best trial is playing in practice scrims or even on pub servers against a variety of targets and attackers.

    In setup scenarios things are often differant, for example a choppa vs a tank without other forces = certain death if the choppa isnt shit. When there is a jet and other stuff to keep the choppa low and distracted it is much easier to shoot it down.

    Im keen to enter the competition regardless of how it is done.
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    Re: TANK CREWS WANTED!!!

    Post  efedinthebutt on Tue May 08, 2012 6:43 pm

    i think the enemies taking down the tank need to be constant, so ask hb or some of our members who dont want to try out to be the gank squad. if we cycle through our own players in a tank gank squad, its going to be different every time. that being said i think tank v tank is the best way to go straight up, seeing as how that's the most important role of the tank/lav.
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    Re: TANK CREWS WANTED!!!

    Post  drzdeano on Tue May 08, 2012 9:05 pm

    tank v a.heli will be measured in time the tank stays alive, bonus points for taking the heli down.


    tanks shouldnt be operating alone in a scrim, maybe we should just run it 1 squad vs 1 squad w/ tank. These pairings arnt permanent btw.

    good training for both.

    yes for a fair comp we would need a steady opposition buts that not quite the aim here, id rather not have to ask HB if we can do it ourselves.

    We could escalate the force sent against the tank.
    Eventually the tank will fall so we can see who puts up the strongest fight. -

    1st Tank v tank -firestorm.
    2nd Tank v tank w\squad - karkand
    3rd Tank w\squad v Tank w\squad - oman
    4th Tank v 2 tanks w\squad - caspian

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    Re: TANK CREWS WANTED!!!

    Post  Xenophontis12 on Wed May 09, 2012 4:44 am

    Tank V Heli, lol laser designator and guided shell = heli go boom
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    Post  efedinthebutt on Wed May 09, 2012 11:10 am

    Xenophontis12 wrote:Tank V Heli, lol laser designator and guided shell = heli go boom
    not if they have ecm. also if they fly to high the tank cant lock on with guided and even if they get low enough for it to start, why would the heli stay that low. the best for taking out helis is either main gun or canister. just remember this heli is coming after the tank, not someone on the other side of the map.
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    Re: TANK CREWS WANTED!!!

    Post  Logzorz on Wed May 09, 2012 11:41 am

    efedinthebutt wrote:
    Xenophontis12 wrote:Tank V Heli, lol laser designator and guided shell = heli go boom
    not if they have ecm. also if they fly to high the tank cant lock on with guided and even if they get low enough for it to start, why would the heli stay that low. the best for taking out helis is either main gun or canister. just remember this heli is coming after the tank, not someone on the other side of the map.

    Because Below the radar works amazingly, and if you cant spin your turret fast enough to catch him, well its gg, canister shell only does nice damage up close, at any sort of distance it gets horrible.
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    Post  efedinthebutt on Wed May 09, 2012 11:48 am

    Logzorz wrote:
    efedinthebutt wrote:
    Xenophontis12 wrote:Tank V Heli, lol laser designator and guided shell = heli go boom
    not if they have ecm. also if they fly to high the tank cant lock on with guided and even if they get low enough for it to start, why would the heli stay that low. the best for taking out helis is either main gun or canister. just remember this heli is coming after the tank, not someone on the other side of the map.

    Because Below the radar works amazingly, and if you cant spin your turret fast enough to catch him, well its gg, canister shell only does nice damage up close, at any sort of distance it gets horrible.
    heli pilots (good ones atleast) won't go below radar right next to a tank its attacking, its suicide. also the intial test was for how long the tank would last against a heli, good luck locking on with guided when the heli is flying straight over the tank.

    EDIT: also i just remembered that third seat isn't allowed

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    Re: TANK CREWS WANTED!!!

    Post  MrSoundGuy on Wed May 09, 2012 12:01 pm

    Ok, this is what i have to say you have about 20 seconds to kill or disable the chopper and the best time to shoot with the main gun is when they are passing over and pulling up for another pass over...
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    Post  XiSTNZ on Wed May 09, 2012 12:41 pm

    ^ if the need a second pass, you can kill a tank with 1 pass. and the chopper doesn't even need to fly near the tank, he can sit back and let the gunner do the work if he wants. or just hover right above the tank, then the gunner just rips it apart.

    on a side not, front to front confrontations is good, but its not that easy in scrims, generally one of the tanks will have superior position over the other tank, or sneak up on it. you also need to judge how good at being aware and positioning the tank driver is. they need to know where the other tank is and how to best use the terrain to his/her advantage.


    But i will definitely volunteer to help out with this, especially in the heli part. (if necessary)
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    Re: TANK CREWS WANTED!!!

    Post  Logzorz on Wed May 09, 2012 1:02 pm

    efedinthebutt wrote:
    Logzorz wrote:
    efedinthebutt wrote:
    Xenophontis12 wrote:Tank V Heli, lol laser designator and guided shell = heli go boom
    not if they have ecm. also if they fly to high the tank cant lock on with guided and even if they get low enough for it to start, why would the heli stay that low. the best for taking out helis is either main gun or canister. just remember this heli is coming after the tank, not someone on the other side of the map.

    Because Below the radar works amazingly, and if you cant spin your turret fast enough to catch him, well its gg, canister shell only does nice damage up close, at any sort of distance it gets horrible.
    heli pilots (good ones atleast) won't go below radar right next to a tank its attacking, its suicide. also the intial test was for how long the tank would last against a heli, good luck locking on with guided when the heli is flying straight over the tank.

    EDIT: also i just remembered that third seat isn't allowed


    You can circle a tank turret at such an angle which the tank cant fire apon you and is still low enough to avoid stingers and lock ons.
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    Post  Tr1gg3rH4ppy on Wed May 09, 2012 5:35 pm

    TV missiles are now back to 1 shot kill after the maintenance DICE conducted a few days ago so tank v heli practice is going to be impossible unless some pressure is being put on the heli from air. ie try to simulate scrim conditions
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    Post  XiSTNZ on Thu May 10, 2012 3:29 am

    I dont believe that is right trigger, me and logz were flying the chopper for 2 rounds in a row yesterday, basically only tv'n. and all i was able to do with 1 tv hit was dissable the tank. never got to hit a tank directly in the butt, however, i did hit them plenty of times on top, on the sides, in the front, on the tread. and nothing more than a dissable at most, it might have dropped the tank to very low hp% but was never a 1 hit kill.

    also the hit registration has being messed up again with the tv's, the ammount of times which i had a direct hit on ether a tank, chopper or human and no damage was done, is making them slightly hit and miss again, but this is only about a 20% chance of miss as compared to the original 60%.

    in saying this it may just be me that is having these issues. its not unusual for me to get things differently in the game to what others do.
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    Post  Tr1gg3rH4ppy on Thu May 10, 2012 5:49 am

    Hrmmm.... interesting. Maybe I need to go have another look.

    I was in a pub server straight after the server maintenance and had a go at both flying and gunner. First my gunner got 3 INSTA-kills with the TV. Then when I was gunner I got 4 in a row.

    It may be a possible that the tanks you guys were against were using reactive. Likewise (and more likely) it also is possible that the guys I was against were already damaged before the tv went into them. Still a huge coincidence either way. 7 instant TV missile kills in a row was enough for me to call it... i'll have to look into this
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    Post  drzdeano on Thu May 10, 2012 6:21 am

    So is anyone going to pair up?

    A lot of talk and no action!
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    Re: TANK CREWS WANTED!!!

    Post  efedinthebutt on Thu May 10, 2012 9:08 am

    i can drive tanks, but i'm pretty sure you'd rather have me as inf.
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    Post  XiSTNZ on Thu May 10, 2012 12:19 pm

    Tr1gg3rH4ppy wrote:Hrmmm.... interesting. Maybe I need to go have another look.

    I was in a pub server straight after the server maintenance and had a go at both flying and gunner. First my gunner got 3 INSTA-kills with the TV. Then when I was gunner I got 4 in a row.

    It may be a possible that the tanks you guys were against were using reactive. Likewise (and more likely) it also is possible that the guys I was against were already damaged before the tv went into them. Still a huge coincidence either way. 7 instant TV missile kills in a row was enough for me to call it... i'll have to look into this


    Fair enough, i just remember them saying somewhere that they were going to be changing them so that they couldnt 1 hit kill, and that is what i have been experiencing, but it is highly likely that you could be 1 hitting the tanks, the inconsistency in this game is amazing sometimes.
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    Post  efedinthebutt on Tue May 15, 2012 4:33 am

    since we need need an armour guy/s pretty bad volunteer even if you're not the best tank/lav driver around. i'm on most of the time and will gladly offer you some pointers and a decent armour driver to practice on.

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    Post  LiGHTOuTz on Tue May 15, 2012 1:11 pm

    Ill give it a go
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    Post  efedinthebutt on Wed May 16, 2012 9:29 am

    alrighty then.
    so far there are only two people who have volunteered as potential drivers:
    • lightoutz
    • trigger

    ill be running a little practice at some point and i would like you two along with any others who are interested to come along, get some pointers and have a little practice.

    i'll be on tonight, hopefully with my internet not failing practice could be anywhere between 4-10pm AEST (depending on lightz' and trigger's availability).
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    Post  Tr1gg3rH4ppy on Wed May 16, 2012 9:34 am

    I'll be there...
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    Post  XiSTNZ on Wed May 16, 2012 10:47 am

    I might be there

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